Comments on: The Results are In http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/ Passionate and Shamelessly Biased Opinions on Medicine Hat Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:20:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Dangermouse http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-225 Dangermouse Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:13:39 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-225 This is why many of us pushed so hard to get meetings put on the Internet ...so we can make sure we see and hear what was said. It helps - with Internet assistance I didnt miss many council meetings this year. This is why many of us pushed so hard to get meetings put on the Internet …so we can make sure we see and hear what was said.

It helps – with Internet assistance I didnt miss many council meetings this year.

]]> By: Ray4271 http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-223 Ray4271 Fri, 22 Oct 2010 02:51:55 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-223 I think it is a great idea, I wouldn't mind going a few times to help out, but I can't do it each and every time. I agree who ever does do it, must be open minded and not bias for or against anyone of the council members. I think it is a great idea, I wouldn’t mind going a few times to help out, but I can’t do it each and every time. I agree who ever does do it, must be open minded and not bias for or against anyone of the council members.

]]> By: JimO http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-222 JimO Fri, 22 Oct 2010 02:14:44 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-222 I attended every meeting for 6 years after my first election attempt and it is quite the chore but ya it would be nice to do this. I do not mind speaking my mind on council but the group would have to be open to all view points but not redneckish. I would be game to some input help. I attended every meeting for 6 years after my first election attempt and it is quite the chore but ya it would be nice to do this. I do not mind speaking my mind on council but the group would have to be open to all view points but not redneckish. I would be game to some input help.

]]> By: Tiggercs30 http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-221 Tiggercs30 Fri, 22 Oct 2010 01:07:22 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-221 Ok, here is something I have letting go around my head for awhile now,I am a recent addition to this blog, but I think it maybe the perfect forum for what I intend to put forward for consideration, opinion and peoples input if interested. How about forming a " A Medicine Hat council review panel" The make up of the panel would have to be decided and numbers, Between the members of the panel, we schedule so someone is present at all council meetings, and as many presentations as possible etc, we could meet bi monthly collate all we have, and build a council report card to be posted on this blog come the next election time, with reports on key issues, gradings on alderman and the mayor and a submission of how far we feel the city has progressed or regressed under the current council. This would be a major commitment of 3 years by individuals, but also if the numbers are right members of the panel would not be commited every night, week or even month, This is by no means the definitive of what I am proposing but a simplistic explanation of what I am thinking so as to determine how many if indeed anyone would be interested in such an undertaking and commitment. So anyone ? Ok, here is something I have letting go around my head for awhile now,I am a recent addition to this blog, but I think it maybe the perfect forum for what I intend to put forward for consideration, opinion and peoples input if interested.

How about forming a ” A Medicine Hat council review panel”
The make up of the panel would have to be decided and numbers,

Between the members of the panel, we schedule so someone is present at all council meetings, and as many presentations as possible etc, we could meet bi monthly collate all we have, and build a council report card to be posted on this blog come the next election time, with reports on key issues, gradings on alderman and the mayor and a submission of how far we feel the city has progressed or regressed under the current council.

This would be a major commitment of 3 years by individuals, but also if the numbers are right members of the panel would not be commited every night, week or even month, This is by no means the definitive of what I am proposing but a simplistic explanation of what I am thinking so as to determine how many if indeed anyone would be interested in such an undertaking and commitment.

So anyone ?

]]> By: Spider http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-220 Spider Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:41:36 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-220 I have a feeling CAPCS will be lurking around City hall again.Eyes and Ears needed more than usual this time around. I have a feeling CAPCS will be lurking around City hall again.Eyes and Ears needed more than usual this time around.

]]> By: JimO http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-219 JimO Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:01:58 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-219 It certainly not ment to insult anyone but it is irritating that some do and then spend the next three years complaining. As for the rest I do agree with you. I was rather disappointed with todays paper showing Dan Smith at the mayors campaign headquarters watching the election results. I would have thought after the email escapade by Cathy Norm would have distance himself from them. Guess not. Others will draw the same conclusion. It certainly not ment to insult anyone but it is irritating that some do and then spend the next three years complaining. As for the rest I do agree with you.

I was rather disappointed with todays paper showing Dan Smith at the mayors campaign headquarters watching the election results. I would have thought after the email escapade by Cathy Norm would have distance himself from them. Guess not. Others will draw the same conclusion.

]]> By: Tiggercs30 http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-218 Tiggercs30 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:41:01 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-218 I concede to your point of voter recognition to a certain extent, however the majority that do vote are voting for the Mayor and council they want, you cannot just base your argument on such a weak statement as voter recogniton, and to be quite frank, you are insulting the ones that do take the time to research,follow and decide how they want the format of the city council for the next three years,the fact they disagree with you Jim, is allowed. I have made my views clear as to how I percieve the reporting in this city, and I do agree it is shambolic and not objective. In some ways, what we call voter apathy can also be interpreted as honesty as a lot of people freely admit, they do not have the time to research and study council, so they do not vote because of their lack of knowledge, and research is key here, as we both agree the reporting is misleading, not objective or factual. As to your last statement like you I do not have to guess, who you are refering too. But at the end of the day research, study and a courage of your convictions is needed at all times, unfortunately a lot of people do not have the time to do this in the complicated minefield of municipal politics. I concede to your point of voter recognition to a certain extent, however the majority that do vote are voting for the Mayor and council they want, you cannot just base your argument on such a weak statement as voter recogniton, and to be quite frank, you are insulting the ones that do take the time to research,follow and decide how they want the format of the city council for the next three years,the fact they disagree with you Jim, is allowed.

I have made my views clear as to how I percieve the reporting in this city, and I do agree it is shambolic and not objective.

In some ways, what we call voter apathy can also be interpreted as honesty as a lot of people freely admit, they do not have the time to research and study council, so they do not vote because of their lack of knowledge, and research is key here, as we both agree the reporting is misleading, not objective or factual.

As to your last statement like you I do not have to guess, who you are refering too. But at the end of the day research, study and a courage of your convictions is needed at all times, unfortunately a lot of people do not have the time to do this in the complicated minefield of municipal politics.

]]> By: JimO http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-217 JimO Thu, 21 Oct 2010 06:06:13 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-217 But how many really knew the person’s record (incumbents) from their terms served...a good example was Julie. As stated name recognition plays a big role here because quite honestly if you have followed the antics pulled by these aldermen one would clearly see who really represent the people. It is a given that not all decisions are in agreement with 100 percent of the people but when you see who really gives their all equally even if they disagree with the situation shows a good alderman. Smiths CAPCS scam were a prime example because if people saw and knew the details they would be appalled at the form of "democracy" she used to pass her agenda. The cover-up by council to cover their mistakes was a stain on the city and unfortunately the media really did not inform the public how the process was corrupted and to what extent. So the short end of a long story is the public really did not know the aldermen (and Mayor) yet voted them in again for another term...and yet again this election. The hatred shown to Smith for that period was again an example how the public was unknowledgeable of what transpired because while she (smith)was the instigator, the poor leadership that allow the most despicable and incompetent review ever in this cities record was the chair of the Public services committee at the times of both reviews. Can you guess who that was and how many really knew that? But how many really knew the person’s record (incumbents) from their terms served…a good example was Julie. As stated name recognition plays a big role here because quite honestly if you have followed the antics pulled by these aldermen one would clearly see who really represent the people. It is a given that not all decisions are in agreement with 100 percent of the people but when you see who really gives their all equally even if they disagree with the situation shows a good alderman. Smiths CAPCS scam were a prime example because if people saw and knew the details they would be appalled at the form of “democracy” she used to pass her agenda. The cover-up by council to cover their mistakes was a stain on the city and unfortunately the media really did not inform the public how the process was corrupted and to what extent. So the short end of a long story is the public really did not know the aldermen (and Mayor) yet voted them in again for another term…and yet again this election. The hatred shown to Smith for that period was again an example how the public was unknowledgeable of what transpired because while she (smith)was the instigator, the poor leadership that allow the most despicable and incompetent review ever in this cities record was the chair of the Public services committee at the times of both reviews. Can you guess who that was and how many really knew that?

]]> By: Tiggercs30 http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-215 Tiggercs30 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:25:05 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-215 Quote JImO - " Regardless of voter apathy those that do vote still do not know their candidates incumbents or not". I have to disageree Jim, it is exactly that, voter apathy that is the problem, the "deadwood" as you effectionately call it, get reelected because their voters are the ones who turn out, so they get their boy or gal back in and pick and choose who makes up the rest. I do however agree with you about CHAT and having Cathy S on the panel. She cannot even make an intelligent comment, and blatantly lies, I also have a copy of the e-mail, and it was good that Bill Cox pointed it out to her, she spoiled the panel,you could see the frustration on Bill's face. Quote JImO – ” Regardless of voter apathy those that do vote still do not know their candidates incumbents or not”.

I have to disageree Jim, it is exactly that, voter apathy that is the problem, the “deadwood” as you effectionately call it, get reelected because their voters are the ones who turn out, so they get their boy or gal back in and pick and choose who makes up the rest.

I do however agree with you about CHAT and having Cathy S on the panel. She cannot even make an intelligent comment, and blatantly lies, I also have a copy of the e-mail, and it was good that Bill Cox pointed it out to her, she spoiled the panel,you could see the frustration on Bill’s face.

]]> By: JimO http://medhatblog.com/the-results-are-in/comment-page-1/#comment-214 JimO Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:01:56 +0000 http://medhatblog.com/?p=124#comment-214 By the way I thought is was insulting that CHAT had Smith on the panel during the election coverage. She distorted this election and to give her more air time is just justifying such behaviour. I shake my head at the media for giving her more than her 15 min of fame for such pathetic hehavior. She is a poor example of good governance and democracy/transparency. By the way I thought is was insulting that CHAT had Smith on the panel during the election coverage. She distorted this election and to give her more air time is just justifying such behaviour. I shake my head at the media for giving her more than her 15 min of fame for such pathetic hehavior. She is a poor example of good governance and democracy/transparency.

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